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LowDow 01-23-2009 01:40 AM

OBAMA HAS ISSUED 5 EXECUTIVE ORDERS SO FAR
 
Most of any recent president. He thinks he's the king....doesn't need anyone else's help! I hope they turn on the arrogent BASTARD! Had to t ask his lawyer friend,'is that right?', when he ordered Gitmo to be shut down.Didn't he know what was in "HIS" executive order? The trouble is he gets cocky real fast. Wouldn't surprize me if if tried something on gun control...maybe just something small to show he can do it.


MorganTheGoat 01-23-2009 02:11 AM

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H.R. 45 - Might want to put hats on before reading to contain heads while they explode.

Bill843 01-23-2009 07:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LowDow (Post 1526586)
Most of any recent president. He thinks he's the king....doesn't need anyone else's help! I hope they turn on the arrogent BASTARD! Had to t ask his lawyer friend,'is that right?', when he ordered Gitmo to be shut down.Didn't he know what was in "HIS" executive order? The trouble is he gets cocky real fast. Wouldn't surprize me if if tried something on gun control...maybe just something small to show he can do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGDR_rFX-k

Well... try to keep things in perspective here.
So far he hasn't done anything really shocking.
If you recall, it was George Bush Jr's own personal initiative that dragged the entire US into a war on the other side of the globe.

Barry's going to screw up stuff, certainly--but so far I don't see much to complain about.

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As far as HR45, it is a long way from reality.
I would be extremely surprised for any law to pass that requires licensing of firearms already in the public hands--because congress knows that no gun owner is going to do that.


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Bill843 01-23-2009 07:20 AM

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Also-------I would warn you, that you are going to hear EVERYTHING that Barry does, that is in any way positive.

He is the media's darling (he won with that 52% landslide, after all) and they're going to report when he goes to the bathroom to take a whiz.

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Stonewall 01-23-2009 07:31 AM

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We aint seen nothin yet. Same if McKeyn would have been chosen. Its not the man, its the time in history that we are at. The chyt is about to go down, one to three years before all of our lives are drastically changed, jmo.

Mtscout 01-23-2009 09:13 AM

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an executive order is not law, right?

what is it?
an executive direction or procedure?
I really don't understand

igorthesmall 01-23-2009 09:41 AM

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I hate to break up this Obama hatefest, but there have been over 13,000 executive orders issued by Presidents. Generally, the more recent presidents have issued more than our earlier presidents. I think Bush issued close to 1000, but thats just off the top of my head.

The Great Ag 01-23-2009 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtscout (Post 1526876)
an executive order is not law, right?

what is it?
an executive direction or procedure?
I really don't understand

Executive orders are a violation of the US CONstitutions separation of powers doctrine, but stems from implied emergency powers granted to the president during a crisis or emergency. We have been in a state of emergency since 1933 and can argue since 1861.

Executive orders are considered law UNLESS revoked by CONgress! Currently there are executive orders on the books (just waiting for the right time to be used) whereby CONgress can tell you where you must work, even apart from your family. CONgress can utilize your car, home. . .anything. President Kennedy (bum) signed most of these executive orders. President Nixon clarified them and put enforcement of them under FEMA. Whoever runs FEMA, runs the United States in a newly declared emergency.

Verify for yourself!

The Great Ag

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 10:03 AM

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Where are the GUN pics ?!? :bear_rolleyes:

Everytime I hear about politics, I wanna see some gun prOn.

Canadian-guerilla 01-23-2009 10:15 AM

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http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/2E8E4...iperRifle2.jpg

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 10:17 AM

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Schwwwweeeeeeetttt !

http://www.zvi.cz/files/Image/Falkon/Falcon_den.gif

wallew 01-23-2009 10:19 AM

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HR45

If passed, this bill would require that anyone wishing to purchase, own, or possess a "qualifying firearm" - that's any handgun, and any long gun capable of accepting a detachable magazine - would have to be licensed by the state or the federal government in a licensing program managed by the Attorney General. To get a license you would have to prove you're you, provide a passport-style photo, a thumbprint, and take a written exam which includes questions about firearms safety, safe storage, the risks of firearms ownership, and anything else the Attorney General deems appropriate. All transfers would be required to go through a licensed dealer with the exception of occasional gifts or bequests between parents, children (18 or over), and grandparents, or loans of not more than 30 days between "persons who are personally known to one another." (It actually says that. I'm not making this up.) And all transfers would have to be recorded in a "Transfer Record" established and maintained by the Attorney General.


GET IT?

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 10:31 AM

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HR 45 :

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FWIW - Bobby Rush defeated Obama on his home turf for his Congressional seat. Now, do you think there's any hard feelings between him and the current Prez ???

This Joker repeatedly tries to re-draft the same 'ole crappy elitist bill over and over hoping it'll pass while getting brownie pts from the people he supposedly represents out of Chicago.

No, I don't think it'll pass......

Just my 0.02 cents.

wallew 01-23-2009 11:54 AM

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It makes failure to report the loss or theft of a firearm within 72 hours a felony punishable by up to 2 years in prison. Failure to keep a firearm locked up in such a way as to keep it inaccessible to anyone under 18 becomes a federal felony too.

So if you lose your guns in a boating accident, you have three days to report the loss. IF NOT, two years in the clink.


Phaedrus 01-23-2009 02:21 PM

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I don't see anything wrong with the 3 executive orders he signed in the video.

He just restored a good deal of our Constitution.

Remember, Obama is a Constitutional scholar. It's his "specialty" - quite the opposite of The Dimwit and his puppetmaster, Deadeye Dick.

Now when/if the gun-grabbing bills start coming, you bet your ass I will get worked up and make a stink with my reps and sign petitions and donate money to whatever gun rights lobbying I see doing the most to oppose these bills.

Cross that bridge when we get there.

LowDow 01-23-2009 02:24 PM

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He has the most for recent presidents .....that have been in office 2 days....I believe. There is no doubt he is going to do something about guns eventually....kind of shows his eagerness to jump on things the libs want done sooner than later.

Canadian-guerilla 01-23-2009 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaedrus (Post 1527533)
Remember, Obama is a Constitutional scholar. It's his "specialty"


so he would know all the little details and possible legal questions
brought up thru the past concerning the constitution

and he would also know the easiest ways to subvert the constitution

AZLiberty 01-24-2009 02:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtscout (Post 1526876)
an executive order is not law, right?

what is it?
an executive direction or procedure?
I really don't understand

Legally speaking an Executive Order is a direction to an executive agency that tells them "how to interpret" a law. Many are very dubious from a legal standpoint, others less so.

So for example, say we have a law that says "torture" is illegal. But congress didn't bother to define torture. The executive (Obama) writes an executive order (to the military and the CIA) that basically says until Congress says otherwise, you may not use any techniques defined as "torture" in the US Army Field manual.

Or we have a law that says to import a firearm, it must have a "sporting purpose". Again Congress does not bother to define what "sporting purpose" means. This means that the BATFE gets to make up the rules. An executive order banning the import of say 7.62 x 39 ammo would basically be an order tot he BATFE that says (this kind of ammo is non-sporting)

Since everything Congress passes is open to interpretation...

Buddha 01-25-2009 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LowDow (Post 1527537)
He has the most for recent presidents .....that have been in office 2 days....I believe. There is no doubt he is going to do something about guns eventually....kind of shows his eagerness to jump on things the libs want done sooner than later.

Holy Shit!! :rofl: A constitutional scholar? Where in his college records does it say that?

If anything he has studied the Constitution in order to subvert it more efficiently.


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